That basically sums up where we are in this country. If you are a Limbaugh conservative you believe that Democrats/Liberals hate the United States and want to see it destroyed. If you believe that than how can you make friends with liberal? How can you ally with them? You can't!
On the plus side, Rush Limbaugh is willing to talk to liberals, despite his friends objections.
I've had conversations in recent days, weeks, with liberals. Every time I mention this to you, I get, "Why are you hanging around them?" Well, you can't avoid 'em, and I'm not afraid of them.Liberals! We're everywhere you want to be!
He spent a long time talking about how great America is and how awful it is that we liberals are ashamed of our country. In this an observation by liberal commentator Al Franken comes in handy.
We love America just as much as they do. But in a different way. You see, they love America the way a four-year-old loves her mommy. Liberals love America like grown-ups. To a four-year-old, everything Mommy does is wonderful and anyone who criticizes Mommy is bad. Grown-up love means actually understanding what you love, taking the good with the bad, and helping your loved one grow.Rush can't grasp how one can love America while feeling like we've made some awful mistakes in our foreign policy. I suspect he can understand how someone can love America and feel that our Social Security system was a big mistake.
Anyway here's an interesting pattern, where he almost acknowledges the basic truth that we all love America but quickly runs the conversational car off the cliff.
I'm talking about conservatives and liberals; I'm talking about traditionalists versus secularists. I'm talking about people who hate the way America is today, versus people who love it and want to preserve it. You gotta get out of your head the idea that I am attacking you." I told them, "We all have the same wish. We all have the same desire: all liberals, all us conservatives. We want to preserve the country. We want America to remain America, and we want to leave it for our descendants as we inherited it from our forbearers. Our arguments are about how to do it," and in the argument phase here, we actually learn that perhaps we don't want the same thing in terms of preserving the traditions and institutions because today's liberals and socialists do want to tear 'em down.If you define America very narrowly to be just the Conservative conception of America; a cross between Norman Rockwell and Ayn Rand, than of course Liberals are against that America. I don't want to live in an America that has abandoned welfare, has abandoned public education, has enshrined Christianity as our national faith, has stripped workers of most of their rights, has shut down the EPA, and so on and so forth. That's not America.
I'll note parenthetically that as far as loving America as it is today; well Rush is the one who wants to make much more drastic changes in our governmental policy compared to me.
On the other hand my conception of America is broad enough to include the concept that people who think like Rush Limbaugh are a legitimate part of this nation - a part I disagree with, of course. But a legitimate part. America is a long argument - been going on for 230 years and hopefully will go on for a long time to come.
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